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Saturday, May 4, 2013

Benghazi, Again

This will not be a long, detailed exposition on a painful topic, Benghazi. I wrote a lot about it in the past and have been very frustrated and angry over the whole issue.

It was a botch from the start. I have listed in many of my posts all sorts of reasons of why I think that. Some of those are:

--What was that facility meant to do?
--Why was it so poorly protected?
--Why did the Ambassador go there on September 11 of all dates?
--What was he doing there on that date that was so important?
--Why did he meet a Turkish diplomat there of all places on that of all dates?
--Why was political hack Susan Rice sent out to do the Administration's cover up?
--Why was it so hard for the media to "discover"who wrote Rice's talking points?
--Why were the people present during the attack not made available for the press or others?
--Where was Hillary Clinton throughout this mess?
--Where was the President?
--What was the President told? What did he say?

Some of my colleagues, finally, are coming out to declare. The battle that I long ago predicted between Foggy Bottom and Chicago is joined.

Let's see.

37 comments:

  1. I understand that the DCM fromm AmEmbassy Tripoli is one of those coming forward. Any comment?

    BTW, I root for Foggy Bottom in this one. However, our major media is too fawning and gaga over the O, and will probably try to help him bury the story.

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    1. He's a good solid guy who has served in some very tough posts.

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    2. Treasured service experience nuggets, that we appreciate much, Dip.

      Reportely, sparklefarts went to bed after a quick briefing, for the night. It was his personal rep, our American souls lives, after many warnings and pleas, that were left to hang in the jaws of the enemy!
      Jack

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    3. Yup, the (irreverent?) term used by tough Chi town cops, used to seeing too much, death, shootings, gangs, and God knows what else, probably a local's term most likely, to describe hussein, wherein sparklefarts second city CPD district home was suggested to put up for sale, with Tony Rezko, if he still had his license, due to a murder, or shooting, 4 blocks recently from sparklefarts Chitown house. His house is getting to be a ghetto atmospere, sounds like. I believe this particular blogger is conservative? Humor/off. ssc.blogspot.com enjoy Wish I'd a thought of it, darn.
      Jack

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    4. I believe you mean "secondcitycop.blogspot.com" instead of ssc{etc}. (I just went to that one and it looks YEARS old).

      If you google "Second City Cop" and "sparklefarts", you wind up at a blog post dated in April of this year.

      FWIW.

      A_Nonny_Mouse

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  2. My concern at this point is for the 3 named individuals and their families.

    The "Chicago Way' may cause them to meet an untimely end.

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  3. As to "why" Susan Rice - speculation - on this sort of thing (I'm figuring weapons, Agency, and Syria) she'd have no "working knowledge" about how these things tend to go.

    So. No way she'd be able to give even reasonably informed opinion were she to've been asked intelligently formed questions.

    Simply put - she was pretty much the "safest voice" to use.

    Arkie

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    1. I agree, illicit weapons running, implausibility of denial of official involvement, al queda-mb rebel destination, at top level authorization.

      They balanced lives versus media splash from specops rescue, in what they guessed would be a messy story.

      Look at how hard they worked to avoid the facts:

      Framed a useful fall guy moviemaker as the unwitting cause and handily jailed him, to exclamation point and "neatly" nail down their operating cover story of 'an obscure second rate film causing the Benghazi disaster', then did two clean up media signals, wink wink media clue, nothing here, style, as:

      "After 4 people murdered, a week or so later: "What difference, at this point, does it make?" Clinton, plaintively, like they're dead and gone, who cares?

      Benghazi “happened a long time ago”, after a few weeks pass, don't want to be bothered anymore, Carney"

      Sounds Chicago cold hearted, watching out for their political necks, at least. Maybe much more.

      There is a large smell emanating from this garbage heap of characters!

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    2. I think you're giving Obama too much credit. I don't think anything that wasn't going to help win the election made it through the force field surrounding him. So he paid no attention to Benghazi as it happened, until after the you-know-what had hit the fan. Then his only concern was to prevent it hurting his chances for reelection.

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    3. "Oh, he's so vain", I only hope the song lyrics are not prophetic. That the real reason is more than just, "not disturbing his election", that was bought and paid for by stealing, anyway. Morally, ethically, that reason would be an even greater outrage, than gun running to the enemy.
      Jack

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  4. Here, courtesy of the Doug Ross @ Journal blog is a spreadsheet by date and time of the known significant Benghazi events. I post the link in the interests of helping clarify certain issues. I'm not in a position to speak to it's accuracy, though I know of no errors, but it is a telling and damming list of events and bad decisions. I concur with the four conclusions at the end.

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  5. Well Mr. Mad, I think it's no accident the whistles are blowing now. Obamas' defeats on guns and sequester have shattered the mirage of invincibility. Alot of people will have the courage to speak, will all this result to good effect I hope so, but with some of these republicans who knows.

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  6. I pray this is correct, that Foggy Bottom has in mind a way to hold this despicable coward and view his actions with microscopic tenacity.

    And keep praying for our men and women on all front lines who serve. They do not have a worthy commander at 1600 Pennsylvania ave...

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  7. Found a link and article on American Thinker....it is worth reading....

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/05/the_man_behind_the_benghazi_cover-up.html

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  8. In my local paper (Austin American Statesman) today "The White House says it is "horrified" by reports that more than 100 people were executed Thursday in a western Syrian town.

    White House spokesman Josh Earnest says those responsible for serious human rights and international law violations must be held accountable."
    Gosh Josh, I earnestly hope you all mean that!

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  9. Some interesting remarks from deputy chief of mission in Tripoli, Greg Hicks, via Jake Tapper's blog. In addition to remarks that explicit distinguish between actions taken by career staff and by people who "have been confirmed by the Senate to make decisions," Hicks says the obvious, e.g. "everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning." That's just the start.

    All is proceeding as our host anticipated.

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  10. It was 3AM and a phone was ringing in the White House. The Ambassador, under assault, got a voice mail.
    Men died.
    Obama lied.
    Hillary cried.
    Rice denied.

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    1. Hillary lied, cried, and alibied.

      Also, the administration, in a move worthy of the most vicious Communist thugs, tried to blame the whole thing on an obscure Coptic immigrant's film.

      The O's administration does not like the First Amendment, to put it mildly.

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  11. Just saw something amazing, considering I thought the MSM had gone through their "death rattles", but not yet, somehow, CBS apparently still has some life left, herein noted:

    http://sheikyermami.com/2013/05/06/will-benghazi-gate-bring-down-the-obama-regime/#more-132348

    Kind of dramatic! Way overdue, but deeply needed, by America!

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    1. To give credit where due, Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News has been the ONLY non-Fox reporter covering Benghazi from the start.

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  12. Crap, it looks like I will be watching cspan on Wednesday. It sounds like Hicks is pissed, but I really want to hear what Mark Thompson has to say.

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    1. Ha, SidV. Even over at Real Science, comes these:
      http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/total-nutcase-in-the-white-house/
      "He is not mentally fit to be dogcatcher, much less president.";
      "Obama has absolutely no idea what he is talking about, and is polluting the minds of people [students] who need to be getting on with building their lives.";
      "After working over the past few months to subvert the Bill of Rights, bypass the legislative and judicial branches, purchase billions of rounds of ammunition, thousands of automatic rifles, and repeatedly tell America that “the problem is I am not an emperor” – Obama now tells people not to worry about tyranny.";
      "The price of freedom is eternal diligence."

      I sense a larger trend of people smelling blood, and disgust, in the internet sphere. It's clearly so in some of the public poles, by pew and others recently. Let us hope the prosecutors of the inquiries, probes, have "strong follow through on their swings", including Inhofe, King, Issa, others.
      Jack

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  13. What seldom is mentioned is that, absent the extraordinary and heroic efforts of the men who defied an to "stand down" and who defended Americans at the cost of their own lives, the body count and/or hostages taken count would have been much, much higher.

    It wasn't four Americans that were abandoned by this administration, it was more like 35-40. It was only by the personal sacrifice of brave men that the body count was "only" four.

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    1. ...that's "an ORDER to "stand down"....

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  14. To little too late? Had this broken properly as it should have BEFORE the election perhaps the election would have gone a different way. There were reportedly (by the Ulsterman WHI source) 4 Senators who were going to have a press conference in October to "hold Obama's feet to the fire" but the press conference never happened. The insider never was able to piece together the rationale for not holding this press conference/investigation before the election. He very much felt that they had been given an order to stand down as well. Who knows. Sure seems strange that this didn't materialize when this guy was pretty right on about most of the stuff he shared.

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    1. Although as we saw in debate #2 the MSM (as played by Candy Crawley) had no intention of breaking this before the election, and went so far as collusion with the WH to cover Obama's tracks.

      Note in debate 2: Romney brings the issue of the attack and blaming the movie. Obama tells Crawley to read the transcript. Crawley lifts copy of ttranscript and proclaims Obama did call it terrorism.
      Question never asked: How did Obama know that Crawley just happened to have a copy of that specific transcript at the ready to defelct that issue?

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    2. Question never asked: How did Obama know that Crawley just happened to have a copy of that specific transcript at the ready to defelct that issue?

      Just an aside - an "informed" guess perhaps - but since '84 both Parties at the POTUS and Veep debates, "approve" what the moderators are to ask. And both the DNC & the RNC "provide" materials.

      Think on it - when was the last time you saw any "civilian" pose a question at any of these dog 'n pony shows?

      Arkie

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  15. More questions here, and comments- including a link back to Dip:

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/07/five-benghazi-mysteries-that-must-be-solved/2/?show-at-comment=147664#comment-147664

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  16. what was panetta doing? why did he testify that the dod had no available assets to counter-attack with?

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  17. when he said this, panetta lied under oath:

    "Time, distance, the lack of an adequate warning, events that moved very quickly on the ground prevented a more immediate response," Panetta said in likely his last Capitol Hill appearance before stepping down as Pentagon chief.

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  18. From Ace of Spades, a bit back, at least one answer:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/339387.php

    "Everyone pretty much knows we were running weapons into Syria via our outpost at Benghzi. This is supposedly "a secret," but everyone and his mother's uncle knows it."

    So .. that answers points 3, 4, and 5 above ..

    Mew

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