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Monday, June 19, 2017

Operation Barbarossa and its Lessons for Today

Seventy-six years ago, June 22, 1941, Hitler launched "Operation Barbarossa," the massive invasion of the Soviet Union. It involved some 4.5 million Axis troops, over three million of them German, and within six months had placed the Nazis on the outskirts of Moscow, and, it seemed, on the verge of a total victory over Stalin's USSR. In the end, of course, it didn't turn out that way. I will not go into a military history of Barbarossa and the disaster into which it ultimately became for the Axis powers; some of the readers of this blog probably could write volumes about WWII. No, that's not the purpose of this little piece.

I began thinking about Barbarossa as I watched a couple of clips of lefty Democrats going on and on about Trump-Russia "collusion." Interesting that the American left now have sudden concerns about not just our national security, but with Russian "influence." They fret and rage that Putin colluded with Trump to thwart Hillary Clinton's bid for the White House. They fret and rage, of course, despite the lack of any evidence that such "collusion" took place.

It is worth recalling that in days not really so long ago, there was collusion between the left and the Moscow. In fact, the collusion was so close that the left was willing to accept the Molotov-Von Ribbentrop Pact without skipping a beat. Let us not forget that prior to the signing in August 1939 of that "Non-Aggression" accord between Moscow and Berlin, the left in Europe and America was vehemently anti-Nazi--remember the Spanish Civil War. Once, however, word came out that Hitler and Stalin had reached an understanding, the left switched to opposing war against the Nazis. We should note, for example, that the Communists in France, responding to orders from Moscow, gave up non-Communist members of the French resistance to the Nazi occupiers and a slow, painful death. Communists in America and Europe opposed helping the evil capitalist imperialists in London as Churchill's Britain waged its desperate and lonely war against the Nazis. All that changed in an instant when the Nazi alliance invaded the USSR. Suddenly, "We have always been at war with Eastasia Hitler" was the slogan and the left insisted we forget about the Molotov-Von Ribbentrop Pact, the invasion of Finland, the Nazi-Soviet partition of Poland, etc. Through its well-placed web of agents and fellow-travelers in the mass media, academia, and, of course, the government bureaucracy (see Senator McCarthy) suddenly the message was one of concern for national security and of the imperative need to defeat Hitler--and save the USSR.

They are at it, again.

Bernie Sanders, who honeymooned in the USSR, and his band of followers, who have never had a kind word to say about American national security, are up-in-arms about Russian "interference" in our elections. Bernie, of course, is not alone. Democrats and other assorted lefties, such as Hillary Clinton who with her husband engaged in, shall we say, some highly profitable "collusion" with Moscow, and even tried to "reset" relations with Russians, have formed a chorus demanding an "explanation" of Trump's alleged collusion with Russia, and even put out demands for Trump's impeachment. It would seem that Communist Russia, aka the USSR, was something for us to  co-exist with while the much weaker Russia of Putin is something for us to fear. We hear that Russia is taking over!

"We have always been at war with Eastasia Russia."

77 comments:

  1. Great article. I've said for months that if it were still the Soviet Union the Dems would be twisting themselves in knots. How can we attack Trump and not smear those peace loving democratic fellows on the Politburo? This requires Tom Friedman levels of rationalization. It was good when Teddy Kennedy did it to keep Regan from being re-elected but, but,... Trump,is evil.

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  2. Don't forget the mantra:

    From each according to his ability
    To each according to his need.

    Hmmm, today that would be sexist.

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  3. I read a Max Hastings book on WWII recently. In a fit of exasperation he enquired (approximately) "Why do we keep hearing about the Cambridge Five but never about the Berkeley and Washington Five Hundred?"

    He has a point.

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    1. There were more than "five." I'm reading "Agent M." Pretty interesting.
      https://www.amazon.com/Agent-Lives-Spies-Maxwell-Knight/dp/1610396847

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    2. Hastings wasn't discussing the small fry nor the nuclear spies. He meant the big beasts in government service.

      As one of the senior FBI men said at the time, when a member of US Navy Intelligence complained about Burgess and company "The difference is, they catch them."

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  4. "Churchill's Britain waged its desperate and lonely war against the Nazis." Fortunately we had the Canadians and Australians on our side, and some brave Czechs, Poles and Norwegians. Even a few Frogs.

    But for the Poles and Frogs, Bletchley Park would have taken much longer to work its magic.

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    1. ... and Slovaks: Jozef GABČÍK, the other parachoutist who killed "The Blind Beast" Reinhard HEYDRICH, just now 75 years ago in Prague, was Slovak!

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    2. Oh all right, we had some brave Czechoslovaks on our side. But in those days English speakers abbreviated it to Czechs.

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    3. Bravo Oldo, I am informed by the post/link on your Google BlogSpot, Re: 2014-Radio Free Europe/RL Interview: In Crimea, Putin Has 'Lost His Mind' with Andrei Zubov. On the March 1,2014 he published a column in Russia's "Vedomosti" daily in which Zubov "compared Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to deploy troops in Crimea to the annexation of Austria...by Adolf Hitler in 1938-39." Any current comments or updates you'd care to share with US DiploMadians? Tks in advance Sir.
      On Watch~~~

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    4. By some miraculous intervention of the Orthodox Church I'd guess, David, yes He Lives!

      Here's a link to that "Vedomosti" daily column in Russian, and also the the Radio Free Europe/RL interview in English linked on Bezunk's google page that I mentioned above:

      https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2014/03/01/andrej-zubov-eto-uzhe-bylo#/cut

      https://www.rferl.org/a/interview-in-crimea-putin-has-lost-his-mind/25284114.html

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  5. Note that for every election, there is a conservative(ish) candidate that is "by far the worst we've ever seen".
    We saw multiple articles of lefties lamenting their lambasting of Romney as 'nazi', only do tell us "but now we *really* see what a nazi is, and it's Trump/next-non-DNC-handpicked-candidate"

    "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, but if you fool me over and over again, I'll be promoted to anchor on a prime time news channel."

    - reader #1482

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    1. "...fool me over and over again, I'll be promoted to anchor on a prime time news channel."

      BaBaDaBOOM!
      hOWlin at the tube~~~

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  6. A long time ago I lived next door, in England, to a Polish man. In 1939 he went to officer training school in his home country only to be captured by the Russians, invading from the east. He was spared being made to lie down at gun point so a tank could be driven over the 'aristocrats' who had that criminal mark of smooth hands. This man was raised on a farm so he had rough hands. That alone saved his life. He later escaped the Russians, was caught by the Germans, escaped again and ended up being wounded fighting with the Belgian resistance. Shipped to Scotland to recover by the Allies, he wanted to go to Canada but they turned him down, so he ended up raising a family in England.

    Interestingly enough he married an Italian woman who had I believe hidden from the Germans in Roman ruins during fighting around Naples.

    Anyway, when this old man told me his story understandably I came to dislike the Russians more than the Germans. But then the National Socialists were the natural enemies of Soviet Russia. I mean, two brands of Socialism can never live happily side by side, can they?

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    1. Their enmity was so much more vicious because they were siblings.

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  7. I don't understand why American pols want war with Russia. A failed-state Russia, 1/6 of world's land mass, full of unsecured nukes, would have been biggest threat of all. That's where Russia was headed. Only Putin was able stop it and get control. Autocrat and thug, yes. But with no democratic tradition, what other type of man could be have succeeded? I think we should be damn grateful he was there and took charge.

    It seems to me we and EU have been meddling in Russia's backyard, in areas under their hegemoney for centuries with huge ethnic Russians populations. We have an official project with a name like "Expanding Democracy" - something like that, the purpose of which is to....meddle in Ukrainian and other elections. (The irony. McCain, of course, is very involved.) I think Putin took Crimea (with the population's consent) to protect his access to his Black Sea bases and coast. My understanding is Bush 41 promised Gorbachev that we wouldn't expand NATO - but we did, and EU did. The EU even worse than us, I think. David Cameron talked of an EU "stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals."

    Is it relevant that Russia is again a Christian country? Is that the reason for the war/hatred? Christian, vaguely democratic (which desribes us now), corrupt (which describes us now). Are we now harder on Russia than Iran?

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    1. All good points. I think that Putin's hard line on the gay issue has permanently marked him as an enemy of the "good folks."

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    2. Yet those "good folks" are remarkably selective in choosing their enemies. They flat-out ignore the much harder line their various Muslim friends take against gays.

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    3. My suspicion is that the left considers Islam to be the "last chance against democratic capitalism". Obviously it's not that they want Islam to dominate over their marxism, but perhaps they want Islam to 'soften the west up' for the taking.
      It's a tricky calculus... for the most part, they've been calling these things mostly to their benefit.... ie, pick and choose which 'intolerance' you will decide to have be 'tolerated'.
      I read a book called 'Influencer' that was rather unapologetic about how control of media delivers control to those tuned to using the medium. They failed to predict the Twitter-Trump 'allied powers', which are much analogous to Stalinist Russia and dthe USA.

      - reader #1482

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  8. "It is worth recalling that in days not really so long ago, there was collusion between the left and the Moscow."

    As I don't hot-link myself (no Gmail account for one thing, indeed not even Disqus) but if Diplomad Sir, your observation needs buttressing - here's a link embedded on another site that, illustrates the point precisely:

    https://libertybellediaries.com/2017/06/17/14409/

    JK

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    1. "It is worth recalling that in days not really so long ago..."-WLA

      Yes, especially that Old Fake News, that's New Again...

      Excerpted From: libertybellediaries HatTip JK
      ...
      By 1941, the NKVD had 22 journalists working directly as agents in the United States alone. The list included journalists writing for the United Press, Time Magazine, Reuters, CBS News, and other mainstream outlets.

      Besides those agents working directly for the Soviet government, there were numerous other “fellow travelers” who swam in the same circles and disseminated similar information.

      Their dual roles were rendered more difficult by the problem of defending the Great Terror and the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Hitler, but they continued to operate on behalf of Soviet interests as World War II began.

      For instance, one agent, Time magazine foreign correspondent Stephen Laird, would falsely paint the Soviet occupation of Poland starting in 1944 in glowing terms and described the rigged election of 1947 as “free and fair.”

      On Watch~~~
      Yes Everything Old is NEW again!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNkf6jKhmVc

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  9. Question to Diplomad, who never answers my questions:

    How did Soviet Russia's natural resources end up in hands of private oligarchs? This happened while Jeffrey Sachs, then of Harvard, more recently of Columbia's Earth Institute (global warming), was advising Yeltsin on capitalism.

    Gorbachev, surprisingly, was a very early member of the Club of Rome, the original "sustainability" people, who then propelled "global warming" hysteria. Those are Sach's people, too. Which leads me back to wanting to know what role Sachs played in where natural resources ended up. Pure corruption unrelated to sustainability/global warming agenda, which is most likely, or somehow connected to the oligarch world of the Club of Rome people? If you have not spent a decade as a global warming skeptic and horrified observer of the UN's Agenda21, this question will make no sense to you. But I hope it will.

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    1. I met Sachs on several occasions hen he was at the height of his power. He was held up to be something of a god by our AID people. I didn't know enough about him one way or the other but did see that he charged enormous fees from some very poor governments. He also, as you note, became involved in promoting UN involvement in the global warming hoax. There I parted company with him for sure. The issue of how all these Russian billionaires suddenly emerged was one, by coincidence, that my son and I were discussing just a couple of days ago. No good answers except that there must have been massive corruption in the waning days of the USSR and certain people were lined up to take over vast enterprises. I have not seen a good book or explanation on the emergence of these super billionaires out of a Marxist regime.

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    2. Diplomad, thank you for answer. Here is what I wonder, and this would be biggest conspiracy ever. The Club of Rome/sustainability/Agenda 21 people want oligarchs. That is how they are organizing the world. Gorbachev was or became a member of Club of Rome, which imho, is one of the public fronts of whoever the "they" are who are orchestrating events. Did Gorbachev collapse the Soviet Union to create those oligarchs and put the natural resources in their hands? It is the Sachs involvement, plus the Gorbachev Club of Rome membership, which raise that question for me.

      At very least, Sachs did some lousey advising about capitalism. But as a global warming fanatic, Sachs doesn't like capitalism.

      No response needed. This is conjecture and not solvable one way or another. I appreciate your input about Sachs.

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    3. I was in China in the early 1990's, when a lot of "Gao Gan zi di 高干子弟“ (the kin of high cadre) were appearing among China's new business elite. People like Deng Xiaoping, having found that power is a very fickle and dangerous currency (especially when a loon like Mao is two steps ahead of you), decided that his son and others would have a different kind of currency in which to deal.

      Further, in those days of the early '90's, the solidity of the Chinese Communist regime was still a question.

      My guess is that a lot of well-connected Soviet, oops, Russian citizens were seeing the handwriting on the wall when the Reaganites were passing on the message that we could piss in the Soviets' back yard if we really wanted to.

      BTW, Dip, when I entered Foggy Bottom in 1989, there were people running around asking each other "what in the name of Sam Hill is going on?" as the demonstrations swirled everywhere from Shanghai to the Elbe, and the Communist grip was clearly slipping. How did things look at the higher levels during that time?

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  10. Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy tried to do a covert deal with Andropov wherein Ted would feed the Soviets information on how to counteract Reagan's foreign policy and in return, the Soviets would help the DNC in the 1984 elections. Fortunately for the USA, Andropov died not too long after the initial secret talks.

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    1. Collision, heck sedition from the Left once was not so abnormal.
      I remember reading about Ted Kennedy, who in 1984 attempted to conspire with the USSR to lend a hand in challenging President Reagan in that election. It was covered up for so long and no investigation resulted to my knowledge.
      Beyond his sponsoring of the change in immigration law in 1965 to shifting priority to less educated, culturally different and intolerant people and families in 3rd world countries causing many of the problems we face today, Teddy was in his proposal to the government of the USSR as close as one can be to being a traitor when we had no official enemy; similar to Benedict Arnold.

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  11. There are two types of Homo sapiens ... those who believe in something because it will better the world ... and those who believe in something because it will better themselves (but hide behind it "bettering the world"). The latter are called "politicians." The former, "Republicans."

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    1. Er, not today's Congressional Republicans, or it turns out, Mitt Romney. They are all colluding to bring down Trump and stall any agenda. McCain is now financed by Soros and after arming ISIS, tries to get us into war eith Russia. Romney and the mysterious McMuffin work at bringing Trump down. The best essay from the 2016 election explains "Conservatism, Inc." ( Trump agreed; he hired the author, Michael Anton.)

      http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

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    2. The Republicans of which you speak are also politicians, so they (mostly) belong to the former category

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    3. Make that the latter category ..

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  12. The Econtalk from June 19 was with an author of a book on Churchill and Orwell. The interview touches on Churchill, but more relevant here was Orwell's hard lesson learned in the Spanish Civil War. Nearly killed by a sniper, his best work came after that experience.

    And aside, Churchill thought the absence of the aristocracy from the Battle of Britain, with most pilots being from the middle class, gave the middle class the right to rule having saved the nation.

    In regards to the questions about Russia/Putin, the May 26 Free Thoughts podcast with "Putin's economist" Andrei Illarionov gives some insight into Putin from someone who was a principle in Putin's "free market" education. One takeaway, Putin sees Russia's historical sphere of influence as his own fiefdom so rough diplomacy by the US in those areas did not go down well.

    Interesting, this guy became an advisor to Putin because when the Soviet Union fell, he was the only Russian economics student who had "wasted" his time on studying markets. Markets being an interest of his that he was advised was a career killer in Soviet economics.

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  13. Good article and interesting comments as usual here.
    I spent 4 hours watching Oliver Stones interviews with president Putin and I think it was four hours well spent. Good questions, good answers, Putin discusses history, politics and "collusion". He is, no doubt, a very intelligent man with an analytical mind, strategical thinking and great ( depressing ? ) knowledge of how this in-perfect world functions. . He is polite and mean towards men like McCain, " he lives in yesterdays era". The idea of removing such a leader and bring this enormous country into chaos is simply lunatic. Good heavens, my poor country, neighboring Sweden, would be totally overrun with Russians. Trump won the election promising a better relationship with Russia. I hope he can smoke out his enemies and succeed here. I am sure that Putin understands Trumps absurd situation and waits with an olive-twig and a peace-pipe in his hand.
    Swedishlady

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    1. All good points, well stated.

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    2. Thank you, DiploMad. It would be very interesting to read your comments on the interviews ( if you intend to watch them).
      Swedishlady

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  14. "The idea of removing such a leader [PUTIN]... my poor country, neighboring Sweden, would be totally overrun with Russians."-SL

    Not to worry SL! And not to be too sarcastic, but won't the German led EU be able to protect Scandinavians from the Russian hordes, Islam's refuse, Gaia's ^temps, and from that G7 Paris Accords reject Trump, too! However, it wouldn't be prudent, for any of us cold-war survivors to expect 'the whole truth and nothing but the truth' from President 'Polonium' Putin's PROPAGANDA -- nor should we expect that Direktor Stone's usual anti-America POV will suddenly disappear, more likely, just an editorial decision to leave the worst of both socialist/thieves on the cutting room floor! On the plus side, it is so much more than enough to watch these two over-rated BS'ers polish each others apples, and ogle each others women!
    On Watch~~~
    From Russia with Love:
    Song:]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcdmq07u2T8

    Trailer:]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9AeIdMQqR8

    New Yory Post Story]
    http://nypost.com/2017/06/08/oliver-stone-on-his-interviews-with-lady-loving-vladimir-putin/


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  15. Oh, I certainly don´t trust the present German government or the EU. Their agendas have brought chaos and problems en masse in Europe.
    And I don´t expect "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" from Putin , I just expect his unfiltered point of views because I know that the MSM will not give us them.The interviews contain so much more than the views, there is the body language, the interaction with Stone, and even if it is, of course, edited ,it isn´t all that flattering to the Putin persona. He is a brilliant politician but has many flaws. We all have flaws but it is interesting to notice his. You write "socialist/thieves", I wouldn´t call Putin a socialist. It isn´t easy to pin him or Russia in any western categories, Russia has a very special history and I believe that country requires a very special leader right now. The situation is probably fragile and the McCains and Nulands in the world are floating around to sow the dragons teeth.
    Swedishlady

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    1. "...McCains and Nulands in the world are floating around to sow the dragons teeth." - Swedishlady

      You might be right, suspect Sen. McCain has Nam era unfinished business with the Russians, and the Ukraine hasn't helped with his flashbacks... his questioning recently of AG Sessions, revealed a very weary warrior... Sorry to learn that he has now taken Soro's bucks to help fund his memorial library, couldn't he get some cash from his missus? Hope its Fake News...

      Btw, the problem with identifying the stripes on a pol-cat is that their political ideology is often clouded by their personal greed, or vice versa.

      The Clintons are a case in point, while their prescription for the masses is socialism, their personal ideological fix is "pay to play". And here too we begin to see Putin's dirty-handed theft of socialism as medicine for the proletariat, hidden by Putins NEW old cloak of benevolent patriarchism complete with Czarist quest for Empire. BUT Still, No less of a socio-Marxist-progressive thief, by design and scope, than the Clinton and Obama regimes, only the national audience is changed.

      Oliver Stone, in his interview with Putin asked about Snowden's dirty deeds. Putin replied he could not condone Snowden's behavior, "he should have resigned" - No kidding Vlad! Is there any doubt though, that had Snowden been on Putin's team, he never would have gotten out of London alive, not that he necessarily deserved too! Although the DNC's Seth Rich murder does raise some unsettling thoughts about whistle blowers...

      To say the least, Vladimir is a good two-faced salesman, but let's not FORGET that he sent Russian agents of the Russian Government to assassinate a political rival in London by using Polonium as his weapon of choice! How can anyone, in the West trust someone with such a resume? Unless of course, you have to sleep right next door to the Russian Bear and are a captive of the EU! Stockholm Syndrome?

      On Watch~~~
      "Let's Roll"

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    2. "Let´s Roll", Snowden wasn´t the one with "dirty deeds", it was NSA that was the dirty one and Snowden was right to reveal their dirty deeds in my opinion. We should be thankful. He certainly faced the consequenses, he might be in exile for life. Putin tried to be fully covered when discussing this : Snowden should have resigned but he is no traitor, he didn´t betray any national interests, he didn´t transfer any information, he is courageous ( and Putin certainly admire courage ). I think it is an enormous stain on the European banner that no one here dared to offer Snowden asylum.A bit strange that the Nobel Peace prize winner ( !!!) in the White House managed to put such fear in these miserable politicians, it was so obvious that they are nothing but vassals. Here you have a hunted man with a true reason for asylum and he is refused to enter but all these thousands of jihadists, yes please, welcome, no questions asked.. Our politicians over here are much bigger traitors than Snowden could ever be. Snowden is the peoples hero.
      Swedishlady

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    3. "Snowden wasn´t the one with "dirty deeds"... Snowden is the peoples hero."--Swedishlady

      "Peoples HERO"? HA! Perhaps to the EUropeons, Russians, and the anti-American Democrats over-here, he may well be, but to bonafide AMERICAN PEOPLE who actually know what heroism and patriotism are! The traitor Snowden's transmittal of State Secrets aka 'dirty deeds' to 3rd parties followed by his 'fugitive flight' straight into his Russian handlers arms in Moscow, is Treason, down n dirty! They are not the acts associated with "Heroes" or Patriots in the eyes and hearts of most Americans.

      Although I will stipulate, for the record, Putin's use of Polonium to assassinate Alexander Litvinenko in London was a much greater crime! And reveals once again that Russia under the leadership of men like Putin are doomed to failure, no matter how many 'useful idiots' continue to serve their tyrannical beast, they cower and bend low when it purrs or threatens! That is the age old path to hell on earth, subjugation!

      Nope, won't work on REAL and FREE American citizens! However, we are required by our duty to country, to stay informed, stay strong in moral, mental, and physical character. Work, serve, make things better and stay ready for the fight! And, all the while treasure and enjoy life & love! That's what we need, and that's enough~~~
      On Watch~~~

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-implicated-in-fatal-poisoning-of-former-kgb-spy-at-posh-london-hotel/2016/01/21/2c0c5052-bf92-11e5-98c8-7fab78677d51_story.html?utm_term=.ebf017f2c9f3

      "Let's Roll"

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  16. Putin is definitely an interesting character--it's odd that I've read KGB veterans reporting that he was mediocre and at best average yet we've blown him up into some kind of Bond villain. He's actually fit the historical profile of any successful Russian leader--he's for Russia first and foremost, and sees himself in some way as a Tsar. Not that much different from either Stalin or Peter the Great.

    Washington warned the US that nations have their own interests and will pursue them when he cautioned against entangling alliances. Putin is proof of that. We can work with Putin when his and our interests coincide but we must never forget that Putin is interested in Russia primarily.

    BTW, I wrote my master's thesis on Operation Barbarossa, but it was mostly a military history piece. And the soon to be wife's birthday is June 22nd. Coincidences? Maybe....

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    1. Jenk, as an aside...I read a book claiming that the Panther wasn't actually deployed to Operation Citadel... and that the main historical records take russian accounts at face value which probably aren't correct (and claim that recovered german logistic and manifest records don't support it).
      I suppose this is really post-barabossa, but since you note graduate-level work in a near-subject, I'm curious as to your opinion.

      - reader #1482

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    2. Nations have interests. Not friends.

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    1. No Thanks, just covfefe please~~~

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    2. Embrace the healing power of 'and'.

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  19. 1999 was the last year the Democratic Socalists of America (Russia's American Socialist part of their World Socialist movement) publically listed active American/Democrat politician's membership. The Democrats had at that time 58 members in the congress and 10 members in the senate proudly listed as card carrying members. There were no independents nor republicans.

    Is this not fair game for investigation into the Russian nexus of political influence?

    And just this month the state of Kalifornia made the Communist Party legal within the state, whereas it is not legal per the US legal code. Mao, Pal Pot, Che, and Castro are well-known communists and mass murders. Would it be fair to throw in for good measure another socialist movement that led to mass murder, aka the National Socialists here?

    Republicans are the party of Lincoln, and many members proudly trace their roots to the founding fathers.

    It seems Trump should have the NSA provide him the last known membership records of CPUSA and DSA - if a republican is found among them, them hang him or her along with the rest of anti-America's who have membership in a foreign politican or illegal organization.

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    1. "1999 was the last year the Democratic Socalists of America...publically listed active politician's membership...at that time 58 members in the congress and 10 members in the senate proudly listed as card carrying members...no independents nor republicans.

      Is this not fair game for investigation into the Russian nexus of political influence?" -- Jumper

      Long past due Mr J.! Certainly an important question to ask, and should be addressed by Trump's recently established "Voter Fraud Commission" being headed up by the VP Mike Pence...

      "The panel will be tasked with studying >>"vulnerabilities"<< in the voting system, as well as potential impacts on "improper voting, fraudulent voter registrations, and fraudulent voting."

      http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-establish-vote-fraud-commission-n757796

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    2. Didn't SCOTUS make it illegal to access membership records of the Communist Party?

      Davod

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    3. Got a link Davod?
      The beautiful thing about BAD laws,
      is that we can change them, and just
      maybe, with another Trump pick, we
      can change more of them...
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    4. Hey OW, hope you enjoyed (as appropriate) a Happy Father's Day.

      To your querying Davod, "Got a link?" I did a little research as I, was kinda interested myself. There was (passed in 1954) 68 Stat. 775, 50 U.S.C. 841-844 - which, on its face appears to've done "nearly" precisely that.

      However far as the statute coming before SCOTUS that had to wait until 1965 in United States v. Brown
      381 U.S. 437. Interestingly the Court (Warren) decided the law was unconstitutional - far as I can tell the original statute hadn't got much attention until Mr. Brown's case hit the Appeals Circuit:

      Reference material here:

      https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/381/437/case.html

      JK

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    5. Hey JK!
      Tks for the citations, link, and history!
      So, it was Earl Warren and his herd of liberal justices -- who ultimately cloaked the Communist menace within State and Federal governments, not surprised. Expect tho, they're forgiven by the Press, and spared contempt in perpetuity, since the Warren Court and the American people of that era weren't privy to Venona project evidence/testimony. Suspect even mean Joe McCarthy wears wings by now, at least topside!

      Btw, the current unbalanced S.Court recently accomplished another assault on the 2nd Amendment, coming out of the California Peruta case. The upside was that Thomas' dissent was supported by Gorsuch... So, what's the latest Vegas line on Ginsburg falling into eternal sleep before July 4th? On Watch~~~

      P.S. Tks, for the Father's Day 'appropriation', it was a nice day, and I don't get ties anymore, how was your day, if apropos! ;)

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    6. No ties (thank God they've finally figured out I simply will not abide 'em anymore now that I'm "recovering").

      However I did get what I really enjoy. Long telephone calls!

      The kids have finally figured out now that they've got Grandkids of their own, that, no longer does it suffice when I ask 'em what they're doing "Aw nuthin' really" doesn't quite cut the mustard if you know what I mean.

      I even got "longish" calls from the Grandkids. The Great Grandkids I can't really bitch about as those are still mostly at the Rugrat stage. (On the other hand .. they'll be easier (hope springs eternal) to buy Christmas presents for.

      And .. the kids and their kids have finally picked up on, "Hey Pop [Grandpa] I'd really appreciate you co-signing on a late model Corvette" ain't gonna do 'em much good now that I'm living on my pension.

      All in all, pretty fine days spent.

      JK

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    7. Marvelous JK! You've had and have a Wonderful Life!
      God Bless you and your family...
      OW~~~

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  20. A little known historic fact: Barbarosa was not supposed to start June 22,(also Napoleon's invasion day), but May 15th. We can thank Mussolini. October 28, 1940 he attacked Greece, and got in so much trouble Hitler had to divert forces to attack Yugoslavia and Greece.

    Imagine the Germans with another month before bad weather slows their advance. Hitler tours the Kremlin November 1941.

    History is full of strange twists. A decision to use a private server. Stupid emails. The stolen 1960 election makes Dick paranoid. An Arab hears an "angel". So many turning points. You could write a book.

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    1. ...An Arab hears an "angel".-PresbyPoet

      {{{{{M-i-r-a-c-l-e}}}}}

      ~~~~OR NOT~~~~

      "Eva Brunne...
      Calling Muslim guests to the church “angels“, the Bishop later took to her official blog to explain that removing Christian symbols from the church and preparing the building for Muslim prayer doesn’t make a priest any less a defender of the faith. Rather, to do any less would make one “stingy towards people of other faiths”.

      With respect for The Bishop's life expectancy, saving LOST souls, let us pray she doesn't run into a practicing Fun-Duh-Mental Muslin whilst preaching to her choir!
      On Watch~~~
      "Let's Roll"
      https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/06/21/church-of-swedens-first-lesbian-bishop-wants-to-remove-crosses-add-muslim-prayer-spaces-to-church/

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    2. Ever wonder why the Soviets didn't do much to stop the Germans for quite a long time after the attack? And why a significant portion of their soldiers entered the battlefield UNARMED, once they got their act together? (Second wave was expected to pick up dropped/captured weapons)

      Stalin was paranoid about the army, so no weapons were issued until they got aimed at an enemy. Most all the army's supplies were staged just back from the border, since the Soviets were planning to invade the Germans.

      Their invasion date was planned for a week later than the Germans came over the border. OOPS! The Germans captured huge amounts of supplies shortly after entering.

      I've lost my source, but this invasion data was found in their archives, IIRC.

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    3. Nope. Barbarossa goes off a month earlier, battle of Moscow happens a month earlier, mebbe. Rasputitsa still rips the Germans a new one, their logistics were still mostly horse-drawn. The panzers still outrun their supply. Uncle Joe hasn't run out of bodies to feed the nazi maw, yet. One might also note that the 'New Soviet Man' was notable by his absence while Unca Joe steadily invoked 'Holy Mother Russia'. He knew NSM was BS from the start with the kulaks. And without the kulaks, he's a dead dictator walking. Whatever else he was, he wasn't stupid.

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    4. I find I've taken a fondness to Netflix's foreign movies. Two in particular seem germane to this: 'The White Tiger', and 'Siege of Sevastopol'. Watching 'The White Tiger' it occurred to me; 'this is so Russian'. And for a retired tanker fond of tank porn there is plenty of tank porn to be had. Cheesy? Yes, Low budget? Yes, but like Kelly's Heroes' Tiger34s I appreciate the effort.

      Siege of Sevastopol features a woman sniper credited with over 300 kills who was befriended by Eleanor Roosevelt during a tour of the US to convince us to open a 2d front. When Ms Roosevelt journeyed to the USSR to see Kruschev, and diverted to see her sniper friend her handlers complained about the diversion. Her reply that 'a gentleman should be pleased to wait for a lady to attend him' was point perfect.

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  21. "And aside, Churchill thought the absence of the aristocracy from the Battle of Britain, with most pilots being from the middle class, gave the middle class the right to rule having saved the nation."

    I wonder how many of the much the absence of the aristocracy was related to many of them being involved in France and Belgium and either dead or POWs.

    Davod

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    1. Second sentence should read:

      I wonder how much of the absence of the aristocracy was related to many of them being involved in France and Belgium and either dead or POWs.

      Davod

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    2. I was going to say I 'spect the aristocracy was better represented in more traditional arms, aka, the Royal Navy and Army. The RAF was still an uncultured upstart, don'tcha know?

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    3. Lets be honest, the RAF battle of Britain pilots were chock-full with Czechs, Poles, Australian, South African, New Zealanders, Canadians, Free French and many other countries including the USA. Most of them would not have tolerated the aristocratic pretensions that caused far too many ill-advised casualties. Perhaps that was why "the few" was so successful

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    4. Okay, if we're going to be 'honest', without radar to get the pile-its up over Old Blighty in time to contest with Jerry inbound no one gives a flat tinker's damn what the nationality of the pile-its in the planes were. The few were so successful because Goering was an idiot. Highly decorated from WWI, but an idiot nonetheless. He stopped the assault on the radar sites, and sealed his doom.

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    5. Along with the radar sites, he stopped the attacks on the airdromes in favor of slagging cities. That would be a Shatnerian 'double dumbass'.

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  22. By the way...
    Mazel tov!
    Amselem Family

    On Watch~~~

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  23. Observations, and Suspicions Confirmed!
    Jun. 24, 2017 12:13 PM ET

    CIA chief: Intel leaks on the rise, cites leaker 'worship'

    Maybe it's time for Americans to become Behavior Mod savvy? Perhaps concoct a unique Putin type cocktail to let these traitorous bastagges know that the American people will no longer accept the notion allowing domestic or foreign enemies to access shelter from indictment on foreign soil, and/or become an international mouthpiece for anti-American propaganda by U.S. enemies, declared or undeclared!

    Furthermore, NO MORE free boob jobs or plumbing reassignment for pseudopsycho-Military offenders, just a simple firing squad for uniformed traitors--all weapons loaded, with Pre-Fire instructions to shoot the traitors balls off, if they got'em! All other convicted traitors will be allowed a leisurely 1/2 hour swim in the deep-end of the pool, with a submerged squadron of hungry Bull 'Gators, of course, ONLY in a local govt. and EPA approved, adults only theme park! Admission free to "I Voted" Americans on July 4th only!

    Even better, maybe a Citizen sponsored National Contest to identify the BEST and WORST method to terminate traitors? (Rinos an 'Rats ineligible to participate, unless currently fleeing felons, or confirmed targets for federal, state or local prosecution).
    On Watch~~~

    Sarc/off
    The Tip of the Iceberg:
    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2017-06-24-US--CIA%20Director/id-7dd623f828a54d8c8ad03ce5fb372082

    "Let's Roll"

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  24. Huzzah! It has been a week without a post, which means humanity has not shot itself in the foot for at least a week.

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    1. Dear Anon, The Chief is in revovery (see covfefe), you'll have to entertain the Inmates fore now. Btw, if you believe Democrats to be a subset of 'humanity', please be advised that they continue to stub thar toes daily, oftimes, from the neck up! Although it appears the 'Russian epidemic' has begun to loose its chokehold, at least on some of the party faithful... Yall come back hear!~~~

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  25. Totally not getting my money's worth out of this blog! :)

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    1. Sorry to hear that Sir or Madam, :)
      We are presently interviewing new talent,
      Can you dance, sing, or act? If so, please submit a 200 word description of your talents, and where you have perfomed them recently. All submissions will be considered, and evaluated, for inherent comedic value. Keep Smiling!
      The Producers~~~

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    2. I still want a refund! :)

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  26. >>This just in from Legal:>>

    June 27, 2017
    UPDATE: Late last night I posted a short item about a CNN producer admitting on hidden camera that the Trump/Russia story was “bullshit” designed to “increase ratings”. It turns out that John Bonifield (the same producer caught on tape) is knee-deep in an ongoing libel lawsuit brought against CNN by a Florida pediatric surgeon who accuses the network of libel and wait for it…wait for it…also airing an ambush video. The court denied CNN’s motion to dismiss the case (the ambush video was not part of the claim) and the parties are apparently waging war about discovery.

    NOW THAT IS FUNNY!~~~

    Spilt BEANS! Timing is everything!
    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/update-on-cnn-producer-spilling-the-beans/

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  27. At the rate CNN is shooting their feet, somebody will have to buy them some new ones.

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    1. I'm guessing they thought they were losing viewers to MSNBC... when in actuality, they were losing viewers to everybody-but-MSNBC.

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