Monday, June 18, 2018

At the Border of Progressive Madness

On numerous occasions over the past few years, I have posted on this little blog some pieces on how when progressives announce that they are suddenly concerned, feeling "OUTRAGE!" over something, they are really talking about something else. I have discussed progressive "OUTRAGE!" over Confederate flags and statues; the very use of words; the evils of voter id; the pressing need for gay marriage; and, of course, the urgent requirement to fight against all forms of racial inequality. In all those little postings, I note that the ostensible target of progressive wrath is never whatever "OUTRAGE!" the well-coordinated talking points of the moment are highlighting in the legacy and social media, the universities, the halls of political power, and on the streets.

So what is the latest manifestation of progressive "OUTRAGE!" to fall upon us? What "OUTRAGE!" are the progs pushing today to get us not to think about the FBI scandal, Hillary's corruption, and the failed Russia hoax?

Why it's children at the border! Of course! Children! "Refugee" children! Who doesn't like children--except, of course, for Planned Parenthood? The current children theme is a variation of an earlier children at the border "OUTRAGE!" I wrote about that here, here and here, among many others, and most recently here. In one of those pieces, I noted that,
[W]e do not see the "children" go from, say, violent Honduras to nearby peaceful Nicaragua or Costa Rica. No, the "children" take a 1200 mile trek across dangerous Mexico to come to the USA, where they are welcomed by Progressive policies of free stuff.
Now we are treated to the spectacle of US border officials ripping children away from their loving "parents"--and we don't know if they're the parents. "Separated," yes, "separated" is now the new evil word! Curse you, Trump! This never happened under previous Presidents! Hollywood types are all abuzz; the word "NAZI" makes a frequent appearance. Hillary Clinton, her very self, is now up-in-arms over taking children from their "parents." The woman who told us that it takes a village to rear our kids doesn't like that village when it's run by Trump. The same progs who have set forward and funded billions upon billions of dollars worth of programs that take children from American parents--"Child Services," anybody?--object to children being separated temporarily from foreign criminals.

 Oops! Did I just write C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L-S? YesThere, I wrote it again. 

Folks, as you we'll know, these "asylum" seekers are, in fact, criminals. If nothing else, they are child trafficking coyotes.

First of all, we must question their love for the kids if they are putting them through a brutal and illegal trip; this is child trafficking at its worst. Second, if they were legitimate asylum seekers, they would go to a legal border crossing, and claim asylum. They would get a respectful hearing, and "their" kids would not be ripped away. Instead, of course, these "asylum" seekers have allowed themselves to become pawns in a cynical and ILLEGAL process that exploits children. This stunt is pushed by well-funded progressive activists, abetted by Mexican officials, with the intention of collapsing our immigration system and creating a fake but very loud and visible political and humanitarian "crisis."

I repeat, people crossing our border illegally, that pesky word, are, by definition, breaking the law and engaging in criminal behavior. If a bank robber were to show up at the bank with his kids and get arrested, would the kids stay with him? No. Child Services, anybody? We don't keep minor children incarcerated with adult criminals; imagine the "OUTRAGE!" were we to do that. 

Another fake crisis.

And as a post script I would note, that if it isn't a fake crisis, why do these people, these supposed parents, keep coming? You'd think they would want to avoid having their children ripped away, and forced to live in a racist and fascist country.  The Jews, after all, did not run TOWARDS the concentration camps. Just a thought. 

48 comments:

  1. Obama on illegal immigration

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFv_v16Orqw

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  2. Of course this has been going on for years, but the Leftist News Media has successfully used the fake scandal to get the IG report completely out of the News Cycle.
    Comey? Strok? Agents 2 and 5? Never heard of them....but Trump is personally tearing babies from the teet of their terrified mothers don't ya know.
    RUSSIA!!!! ghak

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  3. We have a similar problem over here. Young men ( from mid-East and Africa ) arrive in herds, media is totally engaged in these "children" and we read and listen to sob-stories all the time. But many of us get our news elsewhere and we know that this is an industry with much money involved.These people are not refugees but anchor-babies. The boats across the Mediterranian are actually an extremely profitable taxi-service. Most of all I blame the progressive media that this has been allowed to go on.But who are the puppet-masters ? Who wants to reshape our western societies in this way ? Or is it just happening because it is possible ?
    Swedishlady

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    1. That is the essential question. The motorized rafts are being financed by someone. But just as critical a question is, why does the European leadership acquiesce to this transformation of their Homeland ?

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  4. So forwarding your post to the progs in the family that are screaming about this...

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  5. Prearranged and orchestrated agitprop. When Trump said the MSM is the enemy of the people, he is right. Mexico, the MSM and the DNC are in this fandango together with the goal of flooding the news with pictures and nonstop hysteria designed to weaken the already weak moderate Republican wing and useless RINOs. The truth and facts of this tell a different tale but in the meantime, the libs will run with emotion. Trump and the right must hold fast or Central America will arrive at our doorstep.

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  6. Second, if they were legitimate asylum seekers, they would show up at a legal and recognized border crossing post, and claim asylum. They would get a respectful hearing, and their kids would not be ripped away.

    Except, that is what is happening. Kids are being taken away from both illegal border crossers and from some asylum seekers.

    As to Obama's position, he was criticized by those on the left for his immigration policies on a regular basis.

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    1. So you advocate keeping kids in detention with adults? Legal asylum seekers can leave any time they want--and with their kids.

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    2. Obama was criticized by the non-media left for this, occasionally.
      Yes, if you listened to Pacifica Radio, you would've heard occasional niche pundits complaining about Obama's immigration enforcement policies, but those were all tamped down by the media in general. They barely, if ever, even escaped to NPR, let alone the general media.
      But *NOW* it's a crisis?

      - reader #1482

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    3. One Brow-
      If any asylum seekers that enter at a port of entry are having "their" children taken from them it's because those kids ARE NOT their children.
      SOP is that asylum seeking families are kept together.
      BTW, Zero never had a 24/7 negative media blitz place him under siege.

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    4. DiploMad,

      Previous Presidents did not lock lock up parents with children whose sole crime was crossing the border illegally. There are cheaper, highly effective ways to monitor the families. However, given the choice between keeping kids in detention with their parents (curious how you can't be honest enough to use that phrase, turning instead to "adults"), versus keeping them in detention separated from their parents, I would choose the former. How about you? Do you think keeping kids in detention without their parents is superior?

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    5. reader #1482,

      Obama was also criticized by the left-wing media, even earning the nickname "Deporter in Chief". The mainstream media (CNN, NPR, CBS) did pretty much ignore it, probably because they act as lap dogs for any President careful enough to parse their words before speaking them.

      Now it's a crisis because now, unlike before, we are breaking up families when the sole crime of the parent is crossing the border illegally. Now it's more widely publicized because now, unlike before, we have an administration that openly talks about breaking up families as a way to frighten people into not coming to the US. The administration seems to want this publicity, and you blame the media for indulging them?

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    6. BitterC,

      When you change the standards for believing adults when they claim they have their children with them, either explicitly or implicitly, you change how may parent will be separated from their children. SOP or not, families seeking asylum are being broken up to a greater degree than before.

      I agree that Bush never had this sort of 24/7 media blitz placed on him. On the other hand, he never attacked the press the way Trump does. For that matter, neither did Obama (except for the right-wing media, which did hammer him constantly). If Trump suffers from bad press relations, and wants to change it, he has that power. If he plays the media's game instead of branding them the enemy of the country, he will start to get the same fawning coverage Bush and Obama got.

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    7. One Brow, You gotta keep up. Border Patrol was on today announcing that most of the kids are not in fact with their parents. These are adult traffickers. Don't support child trafficking. It's evil.

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    8. We don't have a border problem, we have a central and south america problem.

      - reader #1482

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    9. One Brow, I'm afraid you give yourself away with comments such as "the main stream media....did pretty much ignore it, probably because they act as lapdogs for any President........"
      To characterize CNN, NPR, CBS (to quote you) as lapdogs for Trump confirms your kool-ade imbibing bias, not to mention a perspective completely devoid of that little thing so foreign to the Left........facts.
      Wow.

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    10. DiploMad,

      I agree that keeping up when other people try to change the subject is tricky. I'm not sure why you think advocating for families to be kept together is the same as advocating for child trafficking.

      Last night, Trump signed an order changing a policy that you were trying to diminish the existence of.

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    11. SabaShimon,

      Did you notice the part about "careful enough to parse their words before speaking them"? I don't think of the mainstream press as lapdogs for Trump, and part of that is because he has a tendency top speak without careful consideration.

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    12. One Brow, Have you actually read the EO signed by Trump? Read it. Nothing really changes.

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    13. DiploMad,

      I saw the post. Thank you.

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  7. Borrowed from Instapundit this am: "The importance of the population shift issue to progressives is underscored by how hard they will fight for it".

    All across the West, voters will not give progressives all the power they want so they will import what they need.

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  8. I am coming to the conclusion that this is all bring coordinated by someone or some organization. The weekly outrage is timed to distract the soap opera public from the current real scandal. An interesting comment at another blog.

    Blogger buwaya said...
    An example of the effect of ownership, or funder, pressure on media organizations is the very recent and underreported actions of Stripe, an online payment processing company, that offers financial transaction management to internet-based companies.

    A very hot company, Stripe, competition for more established outfits. Peter Thiel was an early investor, though superceded by much deeper pockets.

    Last week they withheld their services from two Patreon-alternatives, which were formed in response to political restrictions by Patreon, and a Youtube alternative, also formed due to censorship by Youtube. Stripe explained, quite honestly, that these actions were a response to pressure exerted by its financiers and potential investors, that objected to the uncontrolled nature (read, potential politics) of these Patreon and Youtube competitors.


    Hmmmm.

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  9. Perhaps we should track asylum seekers and automatically invoke punitive trade tariffs and economic sanctions against their countries of origin.
    This whole drama about the problem being "at the US border" is ridiculous. Nobody should be accepting of the border being under assault. This is a symptom of a problem in faraway lands and needs to be solved there.

    Trump is head of foreign policy and diplomacy, he can address this with the various central and south american governments.... maybe that's through logic.. maybe that's through intimidation.. maybe that's through force.. I think Trump can and should solve this.

    Doing something about the root cause would knock these progressive goofballs off their game too.

    - reader #1482

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  10. So Dems think they have finally found their midterm issue. I would like to see an accurate poll of the public on this issue. My instinct is that this is not registering with most voters as an issue they care about.

    1. I don't think most people pay attention to specific events at the border. I was astonished at how few people knew about the hordes of unaccompanied children that showed up at the border a few years ago. Really. I kept making mention of it to people - in all walks of life, and found they knew nothing about them, despite the massive news coverage of them. In talking further to those and other people, I found that they had little knowledge of specific events at the border. Few had any knowledge of Fast and Furious. This ignorance is inexplicable to me, but it's what I've found.

    2. I think many people are now starting to tune out hysteric msm coverage of anything precisely because of the progressive hysteria - i.e they are at the point now where there has been so much hysteria, all of it is now discounted and tuned out.

    3. Voters who listen to real news will learn this separation of families is required under present law, is used to separate children from traffickers and goes back to the Obama Administration.

    4. I believe most Americans are not sympathetic to the illegals caught at the border regardless of the polls msm keep producing which say they are.

    If I am right in my opinions, this is not an issue which hurts Republicans in Nov. I.e., it does not turn against them many voters who were not already against them. But I am not sure I am right in my opinions.

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    1. Right on target! People tuned out the shrieking media long ago. Trump needs to double down and punch back like hell. Illegal immigration is one of the main reasons Trump was elected.

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    2. I'd love to see Trump play up the child sex trafficking side of this...then arrest some reporters as accessories. Maybe even a few members of Congress. Let them pay for what they do.

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  11. According to this at The Federalist we are being played by the drug cartels.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/18/migrant-crisis-is-about-the-drug-cartel/

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    1. The cartels, Mexican government, MSM, DNC etc

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  12. I also understand that not a few of these children don't know very much about the "parents" from whom they are taken. This stinks of the importation of exploitable underage labor (including sex workers).

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    1. I don't know what the so-called msm wants... How else would the border patrol determine the status of children? Accept any adult's claim at face value?
      I'd bet if documentation is proper and lined up, there's no issue. It's the "oh yeah, these five girls are my daughters.. and we had to leave their mom behind... no.. they don't know my name.. where we came from, it's dangerous to know your father's name.."

      - reader #1482

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  13. And the Left is getting superduper excited in order to take focus off the deeply corrupt FBI. Heard much about them so this hysteria started?

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  14. Going around the Web now: "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." Abraham Lincoln.
    Enforcing our immigration laws at last.

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  16. The prog methodology: introduce levels of complexity to confuse most Americans ... then, under the covers, push your insideous agenda. But, cutting through all this smoke is a simplifying formula: "catch and release" = open borders. The prog objective of all this current ginned-up hoopla is to get Trump to return to catch and release.

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  17. From the front lines.
    https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/news/what-you-need-to-know-about-family-separations-at-the-border/

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    1. That's the misinformation campaign in full swing. Lots of spin, lots of slant, and does the twist better than Chubby Checker.

      I tried to post a comment with some corrections, but even though I purposely left out any link to The Conservative Treehouse, which has a wonderfully detailed account of the tremendous amounts of money at stake and who profits, my comment wouldn't post. Here it is:

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/20/illegal-immigration-and-lax-border-controls-are-the-epicenter-of-the-uniparty/

      The "official truth" (Pravda is such a good name, and we all know what it means,) still stands and we aren't allowed to question the propaganda!

      Sure glad I cut the cable years ago, it's hard to believe how many people swallow the farrago of BS that's shown on TV every day. Print media is bad enough!

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  18. This all looks and sounds like mass hysteria on a national scale. Just when I think the masses have become stupefied to the max another "crisis" comes along and ups the ante. The trafficking and the rapes mean absolutely nothing to this herd of cud chewers. We are deep in bovine excrement and the screams have not abated. We are a nation of navel gazers incapable of critical thinking.

    As a parent I look at these intruders and law breakers and surmise they don't give a rip about the kids. Who would drag their kids 1200 miles to the US border when they could have stopped their trek in Belize, Costa Rica, Panama, or Nicaragua? And some of these kids were sent solo? What parent does that, especially since the US is headed by Hitler and we're the most racist nation on earth (/s). Most are uneducated, unskilled and don't speak English...……..what's the next step? You realize these agencies who encourage this migration make a hefty fee per person (and more per child) and get to wipe their hands free and clear once the "migrants" are on social services (i.e. welfare, SNAP etc.) and are then declared independent. And the country fell for this scam hook, line, and sinker.

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  19. Send them back. All of them. Immediately.

    I'm becoming convinced it's time to close off immigration entirely. With a possible exception for spouses of native-born U.S. citizens. But our ability to absorb immigrants has been overloaded, our charity overtaxed. It's time for a long immigration holiday.

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  20. I don't know, maybe Trump did this on purpose to show how loony these people really are.

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  21. Spot on, Dip! I was not happy about Trump's EO yesterday. My hope is he is playing the long game and has some sort of plan that doesn't involve keeping the floodgates open. Right now, there is not enough of a disincentive to cross the border illegally.

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  22. We need to address the real problems which cause those refugees to come up here in the first place - and the problems started with the Clintons and the Democrats: "Beyond any one country or policy, these policies fed off of each other. Bill Clinton’s multibillion-dollar aid program to one of the worst human-rights violators in the world, Plan Colombia—which Hillary Clinton now recommends for Central America (though it’s hard to see how the United States could militarize the region any more)—had the effect of diversifying the violence and corruption endemic to the cocaine trade, with Central American and Mexican cartels and military factions taking over export of the drug to the United States. This, along with the collapse of Mexico’s and Central America’s agricultural sector caused by NAFTA and CAFTA, kicked off the cycle of criminal and gang violence that today engulfs the region. This violence, in turn, has been accelerated by the further privatization of the economy (of the kind that Clinton’s ambassador forced on El Salvador) and the rapid spread of mining, hydroelectric, biofuel, and petroleum operations (of the kind that took over Honduras after the 2009 coup and that donates to the Clinton Foundation), which wreak havoc on local ecosystems, poisoning land and water. The violence has also been accelerated by the opening of national markets to US agroindustry, which destroys local economies. The ensuing displacement either creates assorted criminal threats that justify harsher counterinsurgency measures or provokes protest, which is dealt with by new-style death squads—of the kind that killed Berta C├íceres and hundreds of others in Honduras (and Colombia, Guatemala, and El Salvador)." https://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-policies-in-latin-america/

    Note that when the President talked about re-negotiating NAFTA, he got tons of flak from the Democrats and the mainstream media...

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  24. And, by the way - Mexico has lost control of its northern provinces to the drug cartels. "The cartels determine who goes in at a port of entry and decides who goes in outside of a port of entry." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDljS0e2jPs at 4m10 to 4m25s. This means that the northern border of Mexico is no longer in control of the Mexican government, but is being controlled by the drug cartels, who strip immigrants of their money and may either kill or enslave them. The fact that Mexico has lost control of its northern border to an armed paramilitary organization - which controls the entire border by force of arms - represents an armed threat to the United States and should be met by US or UN military action to do what the Mexican government is incapable of doing or is incompetent to do so. The US policy of separating parents from children is abhorrent, but the border under control of an armed paramilitary organization is a far greater threat. Deal with that, and a lot of the refugee troubles will go away - they can be resettled in Mexico, a Spanish-speaking country, by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees.

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    1. The only truthful and interesting part of this piece of agitprop is the bit about the cartels controlling the border, most of the rest is just hyperbole or factually incorrect.

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  25. Let's be real here: if you were running from a country with endemic violence issues, would you leave your kid there?
    No.

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